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My personal sumpathies are with the women rather than with the positivists, but It just seems a bit empty doesn't it? To the extent our values our innate, they don't need to be questioned. To the extent they can be questioned, they're not innate.

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This was a wonderfully written post. But what would these philosophers say about the innateness of evil? For just as sacrificial love seems like a fundamental part of being a mammal, so is cruelty, the will to dominate, the impulse to fight and crush and exploit--these things are part of us, too. To derive our ethics from our nature seems inconsistent with the idea that ethics is a way of resisting our lower natures--which is at the heart of so many ethical teachings.

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Wow that was intense and interesting topic

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